28 February 2010

re: presentations

hi folks.

i just thought i'd stick my tuppence-worth in here, as regards some comments robert made towards the end of his 'presentations' post:

I did recieve one particular critique of my piece at one point, which for the most part I disagreed with, I felt that the points being made were invalid and showed a distinct lack of vision. The use of words such as "this is all wrong" and "it should be like this" made me feel demotivated and a bit insulted....that such a person could be that bound to the unwritten rules.

i know that presentations can be a bit disheartening at times; you work on something for weeks until you think you've got it just right.  then you present it to the class and it seems like everyone just queues up to knock it.  trust me, we know what that feels like.  dinnae forget that alex, griff and me have all been there too, when we were students.  we've all suffered the joys of standing up at the front of the room, having our work ripped to shreds by our classmates and tutors.

[when you actually go out in the commercial world it's even worse - but that's another story!]


speaking with my tutor hat on; the problem for us is that we're constantly trying to think of ways we reckon your work could be improved. that disnae mean we think it's rubbish to begin with - far from it. i think we've said several times that we're very impressed with the standard of work that your year group is producing. but, since we've usually got a whole class's worth of presentations to get through in one session, that necessarily means that we've got to 'cut to the chase' and get directly to the point.

unfortunately that usually means that during most presentations you'll tend to hear more about what's wrong with your piece than what's right with it.  that's just a sad fact of life.  it has ever been thus and it ever will.  [you should also bear in mind that human nature dictates that if someone makes half a dozen positive comments on something we've done and one or two negative ones, we'll tend to only remember the negatives].

all that said, i dinnae think we would ever say something like the  "this is all wrong" or the "it should be like this" which robert quotes. we will certainly suggest things which could have been done differently and we'll point out parts which we think didnae work as well as other parts of a piece of work,  but i really cannae remember ever saying something as downright negative as the above. this is art after all.  there are no 'right' or 'wrong' answers.

and finally, remember it's the marks you get at the end which count. not a few throwaway comments made during a presentation. so chin up folks.  get working hard on the infographics brief - and we can go through this all once more, at the next presentation....  when we tell you what a terrible mess you've made of it all again!

6 comments:

KarlDoran said...

Nice picture Stiobhart.

I'm pretty sure Roberto Baggio didnt mean comments from you tutor-folk. I think it was that Nicky chap who he's quoting. He pissed Sarah off too by being unnecessarily harsh in his criticism. Maybe it's a translation issue with him being Bulgarian and he doesn't realise his comments could cause offence.

Or he's just entirely devoid of tact.

Kitty Pemberton-Platt said...

Love the photo Stiobhart!
You are right about taking negative comments - it is hard when you have worked for so long on a project, but I think people think they are being helpful when they give constructive criticism! However, I know that some people do not give criticism as tactfully? Like Karl said, it may just be a translation problem?

Rob should know that his work is super and maybe try not to be as hard on yourself Rob :) You really are incredibly skilful - chase the dream not the competition...

Kitty Pemberton-Platt said...

Love the photo Stiobhart!
You are right about taking negative comments - it is hard when you have worked for so long on a project, but I think people think they are being helpful when they give constructive criticism! However, I know that some people do not give criticism as tactfully? Like Karl said, it may just be a translation problem?

Rob should know that his work is super and maybe try not to be as hard on yourself Rob :) You really are incredibly skilful - chase the dream not the competition...

Tokyobob said...

I'm glad that you can see where i'm coming from with those particular comments. I didn't want to give any specific names because I didn't want to come across as being arsey.....I feel a bit bad about mentioning it now, it's just that in the last year or so I realised that it does actually help take things off your mind if you write down things that are bugging you. So I wrote it down.

I'm used to a little criticism as i've had many a harsh word said about my music in the past, and I don't really mind it as such, it was just that wording which annoyed me a little....the whole right and wrong thing.


Love that cartoon Stio....since the half-term i've been getting into doing cartooning a bit; practacing various noses and eyes. Are there any particular books you'd recommend?

99999999999 said...

@rob.

i've got a good stash of PDF versions of books on animation/cartooning etc. remind me next time you're in and i'll show you what i've got.


...oo er!

FairlyOddSez said...

.....
(O_O) I felt like emigrating that day, so no one can even say theirs was bad coz of that guy! mine was soooo bad he didnt even say anything! pft. i messed up badddd... but i worked really hard! i just argh what the hell, nevermind.